In a kind of inces­tu­ously male chastity way, I want to put my slant on an excel­lent blog post by Thumper, ‘Push me, please’.

Apart from the fact he’s absolutely cor­rect in the nice things he says about me (yes, this hubris with my tongue stuck very firmly in my cheek), he raises a very inter­est­ing point, which, in my hum­ble way, I’d boil down to the ques­tion of does grant­ing con­trol also nec­es­sar­ily involve sub­mis­sion and domination?

I know this is a fre­quently dis­cussed topic, at least here in the real world where the fan­tasy of female supe­ri­or­ity is clearly seen as just that – a fan­tasy – but I think some use­ful per­spec­tives came out of Thumper’s post and from the com­ments that fol­lowed (incidentally,if you really want to yank a true female supremacist’s chain, point out their believ­ing females are supe­rior to males by virtue of their genetic her­itage is qual­i­ta­tively no dif­fer­ent from say­ing white peo­ple are supe­rior to black ones, or round-eyed ones supe­rior to slant-eyed ones. It’s amus­ing to watch them try to ratio­nalise their big­otry with all man­ner of illogic, stu­pid­ity and, finally, ad-hominem attacks).

For Thumper, male chastity nec­es­sar­ily involves sub­mis­sion, because that’s how he’s feel­ing. You can’t argue with feel­ings. If some­one says, “I’m feel­ing this, that, and the other” you can’t refute them, because feel­ings are inter­nal, per­sonal and entirely subjective.

Note this is not the same as say­ing your feel­ing about some­thing is nec­es­sar­ily cor­rect. So, for exam­ple, if you say,“I just feel the Earth is flat”, your feel­ing is inar­guable; but your con­clu­sion is demon­stra­bly wrong. It’s the same for those silly female suprema­cists, too: you can’t argue with the fact they feel women are “supe­rior”, but when it comes to demon­strat­ing it as fact, or even pro­vid­ing evi­dence for it, they sim­ply fail (oh, and how).

An inter­est­ing ques­tion, then, and I don’t know the answer so I’m not being rhetor­i­cal, is can sub­mis­sion and dom­i­na­tion occur inde­pen­dently? Mean­ing, if Thumper feels he’s sub­mit­ting in his male chastity, but his lady doesn’t feel she’s dom­i­nat­ing, where are they? My guess is both are true, since both are just feel­ings and ‘twixt the ears.

This is an impor­tant point, because, if both can be true, it shows quite con­vinc­ingly nei­ther is nec­es­sary for male chastity, not in any objec­tive sense, at any rate.

Some­one also asked the other day, how do I rec­on­cile my claims of equal­ity with my con­sen­sual con­trol of John’s orgasms and his male chastity? I’ve never actu­ally made this claim so far as I remem­ber, in any case. And if I have, I’ve been sloppy with my lan­guage, because prov­ing equal­ity would be equiv­a­lent to dis­prov­ing inequal­ity, and that’s not pos­si­ble, just like it’s not pos­si­ble to dis­prove Russell’s Teapot.

I merely ask the female suprema­cists to pro­duce evi­dence to sup­port the claims they’re mak­ing – they make the claims and it’s incum­bent on them to sup­port them if they expect to be taken seri­ously. What we do know empir­i­cally is soci­eties tend to be more peace­ful, suc­cess­ful and just when we assume equal­ity in the absence of evi­dence to the contrary.

In any case, where is the con­tra­dic­tion in the notion of con­sen­sual con­trol and equality?

I used an anal­ogy with Thumper yes­ter­day to explain how, for us, male chastity doesn’t have to involve sub­mis­sion and dom­i­na­tion. And the same anal­ogy also addresses the point about con­trol and equality.

John and I work out. We have a well-equipped gym in our garage. John works out alone, but I get him to “spot” me and help me along.

And he makes me work hard. I get tired and hot and cranky and try all my usual girly-bullshit tricks to try to get him to let me off lightly.

But he won’t. He doesn’t take my shit and he “makes” me lift heavy. He gives no quar­ter, and really, I know that’s best for me and he’s being an uncom­pro­mis­ing bas­tard in the inter­ests of my long-term hap­pi­ness with my shape, weight and health.

Yet at the time, I really do want him to be nice, fluffy and kind, just like men do with their women when male chastity really starts to bite.

And it’s entirely con­sen­sual. John has been quite clear in say­ing if I don’t obey the “rules” and lift like I’m told and eat like I’m told, he won’t do it with me. If I want the ben­e­fits, I have to obey the “rules”.

Thi­sis not dom­i­nance and sub­mis­sion, though. This is John help­ing me do some­thing for my long term ben­e­fit and plea­sure that I’d find dif­fi­cult or impos­si­ble to do by myself.

Sub­mis­sion, dom­i­na­tion and equal­ity sim­ply don’t come into it. They’re irrelevant.

And with us it’s very much the same with male chastity.

I’d be very sur­prised to find we were alone in this.

P.S. Today sees the first issue of “Some­thing for the Week­end” going out, a weekly newslet­ter avail­able to every­one who’s elected to receive my free Chastity Guide. So if you’re not on the list, I rec­om­mend you get on it now.

P.P.S. A plug for the recently res­ur­rected Male Chastity Forum. To quote Thumper a sec­ond time:

“One of the things I espe­cially liked about MCF back in the day (before it was hacked or what­ever) was the seem­ingly large num­ber of gay device wear­ers who were there. Maybe that’s what kept the French maids out. Any­way, it was a great place and, hope­fully, it will be one again. I encour­age you to go check it out and, if you’re so inclined, cre­ate an account and add your two bits. Unless you’re wear­ing a device and a dress right now. In which case, there’s already a large and vibrant com­mu­nity out there for you (and you know where it is)

Not, of course, that there’s any­thing wrong with that….”

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