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Male Chastity is More Fun When It's Cruel

by Sarah on August 5, 2010

After my last post, wax­ing lyri­cal about cru­elty, male chastity and your sweet, inno­cent and vir­ginal host’s ten­dency to evil, a cou­ple of things came up which are remark­ably interconnected.

Syn­chronic­ity?

Nah, just coin­ci­dence. The uni­verse is a big inter­est­ing place, but it really isn’t inter­ested in me. It’s not even hos­tile – just supremely indifferent.

Susan’s Pet com­mented (on a dif­fer­ent post to the “cru­elty” one):

Is the last time your man allowed to orgasm truly the last? Would you feel bad if he really could not do it again because of exter­nal circumstances?”

And D. from Oz emailed me and said (among other things):

[…] why do you think John likes it more when you’re cruel than when you are kind??”

Good ques­tions.

As I men­tioned in my last post, John has addressed this in this week’s newslet­ter, and I’m won­der­ing about adding another sec­tion to the free guide.

But in the mean­time, here’s my take on it, from a woman’s and keholder’s point of view.

I think for most men the plea­sure of male chastity and orgasm denial is two fold. This is per­haps a bit sim­plis­tic, but I think it’s broadly true from what I can gather hav­ing talked to some of them and cor­re­sponded with many more.

The first plea­sure is phys­i­cal. Whilst men love their orgasms, it’s also true they’re gen­er­ally too brief and not a plea­sure they can eas­ily savour. Left entirely to his own devices it’s hard for most men to take it slowly (hence the num­ber of emails I get from younger guys who tell me they’re too busy mas­tur­bat­ing to go out and find a real woman. True).

By lock­ing a man in male chastity a woman gives him the gift of what is in effect an orgasm that takes days, weeks, months and per­haps even longer to come to fruition.

For exam­ple, if I let John come at Christ­mas, then he’ll have been work­ing up to it for more than 7 months .

The sec­ond plea­sure is psy­cho­log­i­cal and is per­haps nec­es­sar­ily deeper, more com­plex and more dif­fi­cult for us women to under­stand – the man relin­quish­ing con­trol. Maybe so many men love this because soci­ety has con­di­tioned them to be tough, strong, con­fi­dent and always in con­trol of them­selves and the situation.

Now, to answer the questions.

If John couldn’t orgasm because of injury or dis­ease, then yes, I’d feel bad for him – because part of the plea­sure in hav­ing his orgasms con­trolled as part of male chastity is know­ing there’s a chance he’s going to get one at any time or at least some time in the future. If the pos­si­bil­ity is removed entirely, then so is the antic­i­pa­tion, and the antic­i­pa­tion is, to some, all.

And why does John like it the cru­eller I am?

That prob­a­bly has a com­plex answer, too, but one sim­ple part of it is in being cruel I am gen­er­ally either increas­ing the antic­i­pa­tion by promis­ing a longer period of denial, or upping the inten­sity by get­ting him closer and closer to the point of no-return.

Often it’s both of these together.

And then, of course, the cru­eller I am the less con­trol he has which deep­ens the plea­sure he gets from relin­quish­ing con­trol per se. Male chastity is one big bloody pos­i­tive feed­back loop…

I think this is what they call “win win”, isn’t it?

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Thumper August 5, 2010 at 10:45 pm

…the crueller I am the less control he has which deepens the pleasure he gets from relinquishing control per se. Male chastity is one big bloody positive feed back loop…

That sounds just about right to me!

femsup August 6, 2010 at 9:52 am

Does he really think he is going to orgasm on Christmas day!All those calls and emails & texts to make to freinds and relatives.All those coming over to see you and vice versa.

You will want to make his rogasm special after waiting so long in enforced male chastity.Time will need to be devoted to it.

I think subconsciously you both know that and he is looking at boxing day as realistically the earliest time.

Another thing how often do you personally discuss his progress towards your goal and whether he wants out every month half way? 

Sarah August 6, 2010 at 10:00 am

“I think sub­con­sciously you both know that and he is look­ing at box­ing day as real­ist­ic­ally the earli­est time.”

Which shows how little you know about us, Femsup. Don’t be so presumptuous. We don’t visit anyone on Christmas day, nor do they visit us. We prefer it to ourselves.

“Another thing how often do you per­son­ally dis­cuss his pro­gress towards your goal and whether he wants out every month half way?”

We talk about male chastity all the time, but while there’s no reason to change my plans (meaning he’s not ill, injured or suffering genuine distress of any kind), there’s nothing to discuss in terms of his release.

He’s waiting until I say. If that’s Christmas, it’s Christmas.

If it’s next May, it’s next May.

If it’s forevever, it’s forever.

The same is true about his being allowed to enter me or not. I haven’t decided yet.

 

 

Tantalized August 6, 2010 at 2:57 pm

He’s wait­ing until I say. If that’s Christ­mas, it’s Christmas.
If it’s next May, it’s next May.
If it’s forevever, it’s forever.
The same is true about his being allowed to enter me or not. I haven’t decided yet.
This is such a delicious combination of absolute and maybe.
 

Sarah August 6, 2010 at 3:28 pm

Yes. And I hasten to add, John agrees with the situation and the “rules” 100%.

The “no entry” idea is gaining some serious ground. ;-)

Tantalized August 6, 2010 at 5:19 pm

Re: no entry — the more I love something, the more erotic I find its denial. I was once denied seeing or touching my love’s breasts. Plenty of entry, plenty of coming. Just a month when I had no access to the part of her I loved most. I went wild.

susan's pet August 7, 2010 at 12:50 am

Some of us are kinky to the n’th degree, including me. Nevertheless, we neeed to evaluate our objectives and methods.  You say, “…For example, if I let John come at Christ­mas, then he’ll have been work­ing up to it for more than 7 months …”

What if I paraphrase that as “… For example, if I let John eat a meal at Christ­mas, then he’ll have been work­ing up to it for more than 7 months ….?”

I am kinky, and willing to to a lot of things including chastity and denial. The problem I have with denial is that it is open ended even if it has a date at the end.  You just never know when it ends on its own.

I have a female friend who had a male friend. They were close, but never had sex in the true sense of meaining: penetration of the vagina. I don’t know the reason for their abstinnence, I did not approve it, but then, they did not ask for my approval.

He died. Now there is only one person who might feel guilty, for the other is dead.

Sarah August 7, 2010 at 10:09 am

What if I para­phrase that as “… For example, if I let John eat a meal at Christ­mas, then he’ll have been work­ing up to it for more than 7 months .…?”

Pet, I don’t understand. So what if you do?

 

 

Tom Allen August 7, 2010 at 3:52 pm

<i>… because part of the pleas­ure in hav­ing his orgasms con­trolled as part of male chastity is know­ing there’s a chance he’s going to get one at any time or at least some time in the future. If the pos­sib­il­ity is removed entirely, then so is the anti­cip­a­tion, and the anti­cip­a­tion is, to some, all.</i>
In other words, “Jam tomorrow, jam yesterday, but never jam today.”  This is why Mrs. Edge and I do the same thing – if there’s a schedule, then who is really in control?
 
<i>And why does John like it the crueller I am?</i>
Wait, he wants you to be a little donut?
 
 
 

PeRob August 7, 2010 at 7:53 pm

Is it possible that John might not want to cum at Christmas? I mean, having gone sooo long, is it not conceivable that while desperately wanting that elusive orgasm he might not want to give up the feeling of desperation and need?
It’s not comparable in any meaningful sense, but recently I was allowed to cum after ten days (which is not that long I know, although it seemed a while to me!) and if I had been given a choice in the matter I am almost certain I would have asked to continue the process.
As it happened I had a pretty mindblowing orgasm and it was fantastic, but… I still kind of wish I was pushing 16 days now instead.
I am relatively new to this whole thing so maybe I’m completely wrong and John might quite rightly say “‘You try  going a year and then see if YOU want to cum!” and I have to concede he’d have a point.
Still, by all accounts it sounds like he doesn’t have a choice in when, or if. So I guess if I was in that position I would be taking whenever I was offered.
 
 

Sarah August 7, 2010 at 8:09 pm

This is an excellent point, PeRob, and one I’ll address fully in a post – need to talk to Mr Mr and get his view on it first.

PeRob August 7, 2010 at 8:26 pm

If the tension and need is so unimaginably enormous after a year (which I would bet my house it will be!), might not the hole left afterwards be equally cavernous? It would be interesting to know how John feels after one of your three month releases. Does the post-orgasmic feeling of emptiness increase proportionally with the length of denial?
This is what makes me question whether he will really want to give up the almost ‘high’ state of mind that I imagine he will be enjoying after so long. Especially as it will take so long to get back to where he was…

femsup August 10, 2010 at 2:57 am

What if he doesn’t want to orgasm on Christmas or after.Will he have a forced orgasm.What if he wants to remain chaste for the rest of his life is that not taking away your power and your delicious enjoyment of that power. 

Sarah August 10, 2010 at 1:43 pm

That’s a good question, Femsup.

First, it’s my decision when he comes, just as it is when he doesn’t come.

Secondly, it’s moot in the sense that I think it’s highly unlikely I could not get him to the point where his objections magically disappear…

femsup August 12, 2010 at 3:24 am

I like the way you put that.Just as its great to have the power to bind someone its just as much fun to have the power to unbind them.

Its a bit like the analogy of music being about silence and spaces between teh sound.

Well chastity and orgasms are the same.Orgasms are the punctuations between the longer more fruitful longing,aching and lusting periods of strictly enforced male chastity.

Whatever I’m sure you will play with his body like a fine instrument and make beautiful music together.

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