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Male Chastity Punishment and Why John Had To Suffer

by Sarah on May 18, 2010

OK, ok, so you want to know why I meted out male chastity pun­ish­ment to John. I’ve had about a dozen mes­sages about it, plus a cou­ple of peo­ple ask­ing in their comments.

The answer is fairly mun­dane, but some­what amus­ing and ironic.

But before I get to that, I want to explore the entire sub­ject fur­ther, because it seems to be caus­ing some con­fu­sion and indeed con­ster­na­tion, espe­cially when it comes to my claim not to be a Domme or John’s Mistress.

On one level it really does come down to seman­tics, and I don’t really see the point in get­ting into that because ulti­mately it comes down to sub­jec­tive opin­ion, at which point the only thing you can do is shrug and let peo­ple get on with it.

Pun­ish­ment is pred­i­cated on author­ity, and in the con­text of male chastity pun­ish­ment is nec­es­sar­ily con­sen­sual. So if it’s con­sen­sual, it can’t be pun­ish­ment in the lit­eral sense of the word. But it’s handy to call it that because it’s sim­ply a handy label. More to the point, within the rules of the game, then some things you can do really are punishment.

I mean, when your man is beg­ging for you to let him orgasm and you say, “no!” and lock him back up again leav­ing him frus­trated, is that pun­ish­ment? Because in one respect, that’s what he wants since that’s the game you’re play­ing; but in another, it’s not because when he’s beg­ging to come, he really, really means it (I’ve writ­ten more about this in the free male chastity guide).

So it’s fair to say that within the rules of the game it’s male chastity pun­ish­ment, but in the wider con­text of your lives together it’s not, because that’s what you’ve both agreed on.

The same would be true of, say, can­ing, which is some­thing John is will­ing to try (prob­a­bly keen if not actu­ally eager if truth be told). There’s no doubt it’d hurt, and I know the point is you don’t stop just because your man is beg­ging you to. I’ve got mixed feel­ings about it, since I can’t see the point in doing it unless you do it seri­ously, and that’s not really a part of myself I want to start pok­ing with a stick at the moment because I might not like what comes spit­ting and snarling out of the dark recesses of my psyche.

To my way of think­ing, if you’re going to cane someone’s arse as male chastity pun­ish­ment, then it doesn’t start until he’s at the limit of what he can stand. Then you take him firmly and lov­ingly beyond it. So, maybe for the future, I don’t know.

The ruined orgasm is per­fect, though, since it pretty much spoils every­thing for him with­out actu­ally ruin­ing the game as a whole (and I strongly rec­om­mend you read the fab­u­lous com­ments added by Robert, Pet and others – they know far more about it than I do, obviously).

And it works so well because you’re still play­ing within the rules of the game.

Another male chastity pun­ish­ment is sim­ply to let him orgasm every time you have any kind of sex­ual con­tact, deny him denial, if you like, even if you keep him locked up. On the face of it, this seems like capit­u­la­tion because he’s going to be happy about it.

But he won’t be happy for long because he’s not get­ting the long-term ben­e­fits and thrills he wants; and he can’t com­plain you’re not play­ing the game, because you are: orgasm con­trol means just that and while you might not be enter­ing into the spirit of the game, you’re stick­ing to the let­ter. That’s pretty soon going to piss him off.

Finally, we have the ulti­mate sanc­tion: give him his keys back and refuse to play the game at all. This isn’t some­thing I’ve ever threat­ened, sim­ply because I’ve never had to, but I know women who have.

As male chastity pun­ish­ment goes, this is out­side the rules of the game, because you’re end­ing the game itself, or at least telling him if his unac­cept­able behav­iour con­tin­ues that’s what’s going to happen.

On the face of it, this seems like sour grapes per­haps, but I can eas­ily see how this is the only sen­si­ble answer to a man who insists on top­ping from the bot­tom when he’s given you explicit and total control.

As an aside, to answer obliquely a com­mon ques­tion, which is in effect “how long should I lock him up the first time?”, I’ve come round to the way of think­ing if your man wants to play this game and is adamant he wants you to have con­trol and for you to have it in the long-term, you’re per­haps wise to ask him to prove his com­mit­ment by agree­ing to a very long period of denial, say six months to a year.

You’re unlikely to be able to do this imme­di­ately, but you can make it plain that’s the goal, and draw up a plan to achieve it as quickly as pos­si­ble. At the moment, John and I are look­ing at a full year once his Tolly­boy belt arrives (don’t get me started!).

Such a long period is not male chastity pun­ish­ment per se; rather it’s a sim­ple way to make your life eas­ier in the long run. It’s not about dom­i­na­tion, either: you’re sim­ply being assertive and say­ing, “If you want me to play the game, these are the rules I’m pre­pared to play by”. He’s then free to agree or dis­agree. It’s also a good idea to detail what male chastity pun­ish­ment you’ll dish out if he breaks the rules.

The won­der­ful thing is (and you men will hate me for reveal­ing this about you ;-) ), cer­tainly in the begin­ning, your man almost cer­tainly wants this more than you do. That may well change as you begin to reap the ben­e­fits and expe­ri­ence the plea­sure, but your man has been think­ing, dream­ing, and fan­ta­sis­ing about this for a long time in one way or another .

It’s not too far wide of the mark to say he’s prob­a­bly obsessed and des­per­ate for it. He might back off and ago­nise and keep being drawn to it like a moth to a can­dle flame, but he will not be able to resist, ulti­mately. So stick to your guns: “a year or noth­ing. Take it like a man.” ;-)

In gen­eral, I tend to think if you need to pun­ish, something’s gone wrong some­where, and male chastity pun­ish­ment is no dif­fer­ent. I’m talk­ing about what you might call real pun­ish­ment here, like refus­ing to play the game, ruined orgasm or some­thing like that (unless you just do it for fun, which can also be… fun…). I’d class orgasm denial and even severe can­ing to be less pun­ish­ment and more part of the game itself. You mileage may vary – seman­tics again, I suppose.

And this is why I rec­om­mend you set the ground rules right upfront – it goes a long way to avoid­ing this kind of prob­lem and the need for male chastity pun­ish­ment entirely.

P.S. And at last, why I treated John to his ruined orgasm. It was early on in our exper­i­men­ta­tion and he was annoy­ing me by call­ing me “Mis­tress” when I’d told him not to. What made it even more annoy­ing was he didn’t do it for any other rea­son than he wanted to annoy me: we’d estab­lished at that point we weren’t get­ting into a D&S relationship.

And it got to the point when I was about to make him come and he used that fuck­ing word again… so I just stopped what I was doing, slipped him out of me and just strad­dled him with­out com­ment, giv­ing him one of those looks.

Unfor­tu­nately for him it was right at the point of no return and since I had his arms pinned above his head, he wasn’t eas­ily able to touch him­self and avoid the ruined orgasm. He did try to enter me again but I just raised myself out of reach, treat­ing him to a wicked smile. I wasn’t entirely sure what kind of male chastity pun­ish­ment he was suf­fer­ing at the time, but I knew he was suf­fer­ing, and that was good enough for me.

I con­fess, writ­ing about it has me wickedly horny again.

Oh, the temp­ta­tion… just because I can…

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James May 18, 2010 at 4:21 pm

Well, I just started this game with my wife so I don’t have the experience you do. I do, however, think there is a D&s aspect to it. There’s an experience giver and receiver. You give John the experience of being locked up, denied, ruined orgasms, maybe caning, and he receives them. I’m sure he gives you some sensations as well, but I’m betting that if you had to divide it up, you’re the giver and he’s the feeler. With D&s relationships (so I’ve read/heard) the power actually lies mostly with the s. The whole game requires consent from both parties. The D will rescind consent if they don’t like the game or perhaps feel the experiences they’re giving aren’t being appreciated, or other such cerebral reasons. It’s more frequent for the D to hit and s’s hard limit where the s says “whoa, whoa, whoa cowgirl, this isn’t what I signed up for!” The trick, or balancing act is for the D to give the s more than they want but less than their hard limit.

Hard limits are different for everyone. If my wife said “lockup for 6mo-yr or nothing.” I’d up and say “fine, gimme the keys, this is going out with the trash next collection day.” 3.5 days was hard enough! 1yr would be well beyond my hard limit. It doesn’t mean we can have fun with shorter durations. If a year is fun, sexy, and hot for you guys, fantastic. But as a prescription for others it might work for some but it’ll scare others completely. I think a good guide (at least to start) would be to ask your man how long he wants to be locked up. If he gives you a ridiculous number, disregard it and ask again when he’s more (or less) eager to get out. Once you get a real number of what he *wants* multiply it by something around 2-3. That’d probably bump up close to his hard limit. If my wife asked me tomorrow how long I’d like to be locked up, I’d say 2-4 days. If she said “Great you’ll be in it for a week.” It’d be enough for my heart to pitter patter with both excitement and nervousness. That’s the line I love to walk.

Sarah May 18, 2010 at 4:36 pm

I should have been clearer. When I was talking about “six months or nothing”, I was really referring to those occasions when a man says he wants his wife to have complete control. As I’ve said in many places, figuring out the ground-rules is probably the most important thing you can do. If you read the rest of the Blog, you’ll get something of a feeling for my thoughts about consent. ;-) .

However, there is no D&S aspect to John’s chastity. None whatsoever. You’ll pick that up from the rest of the Blog, too.

Sarah.

susan's pet May 22, 2010 at 12:21 am

I have experienced another method of punishment. Whether it is on purpose or by chance, my wife can mete it without pity.

There is a familiar theme in Female Led Relationship: tease and denial. Looking at it closely, and I have done so, it appears to be for the benefit of the horny man in the relationship. The woman might get a thrill out of it, but it is a chore, so I am not sure how long that would last.

I have developed a jaundiced view of this, as you can probably tell. In fact, I coined a term, ignore and deny as an alternative. I published a post tongue-in-cheek to parody the issue. You can see it at http://hersforever.blogspot.com/2009/10/orgasm-control-by-one-in-charge.html.

My conclusion is that punishment can take different forms. It is punishment only when it fits the victim, otherwise it is either a nuisance, or just going along with the so-called victim’s kinks. To me, ignore and deny by my wife is punishment.

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