For orgasm denial to be a permanent way of life, your man has to be more than willing. In fact, to make it work as a realistic lifestyle choice, I suspect he’s got to be eager.
Let me explain why I say this.
There’s no doubt orgasm denial is a fundamental part of male chastity. For some men it’s really just about orgasm control meaning they have in their ground rules they get to orgasm, but perhaps not so frequently or so easily as before.
But for some men, it goes beyond control into actual orgasm denial — meaning, their orgasms are consciously and deliberately withheld by whomever they have handed over the decision to.
Now, on the face of it no man would want this. Orgasm denial perhaps one of those things where if you have the desire no explanation is possible, and if you don’t then no explanation is necessary. As someone put it today to me on Twitter, “I think it comes down to the fact that desire itself is pleasurable”.
And as I’ve often said, I don’t fully understand orgasm denial myself… but I don’t have to because I can simply enjoy the benefits I get from it plus enjoy the effect on and the pleasure it brings the man I love.
Orgasm denial as a way of life
We can go even deeper into this and look at men and women for whom orgasm denial is more than an occasional game, but actually a way of life. As in, for whatever reasons they have decided orgasm denial is going to be permanent.
This is where it gets a bit silly, in my opinion. Well, it gets silly in lots of places, but it gets really silly here in particular. One of the biggest misconceptions about orgasm denial is it’s somehow not consensual.
It is.
Every single time.
I get a fair few emails from men and a few comments on this blog (I don’t approve them) claiming they have somehow been forced into chastity and orgasm denial against their will. On the other side of the coin, I get emails and comments from women (who are usually men pretending to be women, if truth be told) claiming they have forced or are blackmailing their men into the same.
And it’s all a crock of shit. If a man didn’t agree to orgasm denial he could simply cut the device off. Or stick a powerful dildo up his arse and cum like that. Or forcibly take the key from his wife. Or beat her up and make her tell him where it is.
This is why ‘forced chastity’ and ‘forced orgasm denial’ are such BS.
Orgasm denial, even as a permanent way of life is a lifestyle choice which requires ongoing consent and cooperation of the man involved. Any other suggestion is B.S., no matter how loudly and stridently the Chastity Taliban claim otherwise. They are deluded at best, and outright liars at worst.
More than that for most men it also requires the ongoing consent and cooperation of the woman, too, especially if he wants her to give him the tease and denial he craves (very few men want to be locked and left; and probably even fewer want their wives fucking other men while this is all happening).
So…
Why would a man choose permanent orgasm denial?
Because if your appreciation and enjoyment of sexual activity isn’t predicated on the necessity of reaching orgasm… why not?
For many men, the pleasure of pleasing a woman, how she moves, how she looks, and how she sounds is the better part of the pleasure of sex.
For many men the pleasure of sex, the need and desire to orgasm right up to the edge is itself more pleasurable than going over the edge itself and experiencing the inevitable come-down (remember the old saying, “the journey is better than the inn”? It applies here for a great many men).
Which leads me to another comment I get a lot, and which I frankly find annoying. And that’s the “but won’t John lose hope and give up?”.
Similarly, I’ve had it said I “must” do certain things to make sure John doesn’t “cheat”.
This all misses the essential point that while it might be true if he saw orgasm as the be-all and end all… he doesn’t. So he doesn’t want to cheat. He doesn’t want to come (well, he does, but only “in the moment”, which is why when I treat him to Tease and Denial, I’ll often restrain his hands).
In other words, in terms of John’s orgasm denial it’s totally irrelevant, and the people who keep bringing it up really ought to read more of this blog and my emails and stop projecting their own feelings and desires onto others. Orgasm denial is pleasure in and of itself. Permanent orgasm denial with regular and intense tease and denial is a natural extension of this to the limit of what’s possible.
Yes, some men like to play the game of “I’m locked and I have no choice and I’ll cheat if I can”.
Fine.
Do that.
But don’t pretend chastity and orgasm denial is not just a game and expect others to take you seriously, don’t fool yourself into thinking everyone else has the same desires and sees it the same way, and don’t start trying to shoehorn your own perceptions and meaning into other people’s lives. It all just makes you look naive, ignorant and stupid.
Fact is, we’ve not made our minds up yet.
We are definitely leaning towards permanent orgasm denial, but we do have some concerns, none of which are to do with John missing out on them (it’s really more about what I’ll perhaps miss out on, but that’s another story).
This isn’t to say things will never change. As someone pointed out, forever and never are a long time. We can change our minds if one or both of us decide that’s what we want. Someone asked me a little while ago what I’d do if John changed his mind about chastity and orgasm denial, and I was somewhat perplexed.
What could I “do”?
Why would I want to “do” anything?
John and I are together because we love each other and we want to be together. It’s not predicated on male chastity and orgasm denial.
On the contrary, our deep love is what makes male chastity and orgasm denial possible and I think more people would do well to realise this and see their own relationships in a similar light.
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Okay, I’ll comment- seems I usually do. First, Sarah, your points are very well put. I get them at least. Not sure how anyone else could misconstrue them. As you may remember, I’ve only been in chastity for five months. In that time, I’ve been allowed to cum 4 times. I’ve been begging for a couple of weeks now for a six month go at it without an orgasm, and I’m very hopeful, but since I turned absolute control over to my wife, I don’t know what her decision is or will be and she won’t say. She’s even hinted at a year, but I suspect that’s more for effect than actually planned. Still, I hoping for the six months. And why?
There is indeed great pleasure in the desire. And no, I don’t want to cheat either. Are you kidding me? To feel 18 again- to be a walking horndog- semi-turned on most of the time- ready at a moment’s notice. It’s well worth it just for that part. It’s more of a challenge to see how long I can go, and starting the day count over after an orgasm is a bit of a downer. To show how much I don’t want to cheat- you mentioned tying Johns hands- well, though my wife starts out our tease and denial sessions, she makes me take over and get as close to the edge as I can without going over. It’s up to me to stop without cumming.
Would I consider permanent denial? Well, only a couple of months into chastity, I saw the benefits and at that time, copied the portion of your contract that dealt with permanent denial, signed it and presented it to my wife. So she can enact it any time she chooses. I also pretty much said I’d get a PA piercing at her discretion, should she chose. Then of course, she holds the keys. So I’d say she pretty much owns me where sex is concerned, but like you and John, her control is in that area alone. So let’s see, go back to infrequent sexual intercourse that was becoming a bit bland, or go to permanent denial with frequent teases right to the edge. Hmmmm. I’ll take the permanent denial.
Oh yes, and ditto on the idea of the pleasure a man receives in giving his woman pleasure- it’s almost as good as getting it myself!
I have mixed feelings about the idea of permanent denial. On the one hand I can see the appeal of not having that drop off in desire (although this doesn’t seem to be happening quite so much now for me) and the thought of being insanely horny is a definite point in it’s favour, but on the other I can’t quite get my head round the idea of never feeling that intense release again. I think personally, I would prefer a longer period of denial, but still knowing that ultimately there’s a light at the end of the tunnel.
my wife has me in total orgasm denial with the clubfem mcd
I wish my wife would deny me more. We are on the way there, and she has started denying me some and I’m hopeful she is starting to see some benefit.
One thing that has always been my fantasy if to be forced into chastity. However, now that I’ve read this, I realize that you are right, there is no way my delicate small flower of a wife would actually be able to “force” me into this if I didn’t let her.
With this understanding in hand, it is now up to me to understand that even though this is very serious and turns me on greatly, it is still a game we are playing and I have to make sure it is fun and rewarding to her if I expect her to keep playing with me.
Thank you for posting this.
Permanent orgasm delijal is the best. I have strong mental orgasm when I perfom cunnilingus. Two times per month my wife is practice prostate milking with rude boy prostate masager. I like when I give her pleasure. Permanet oprgasm denial is excelent for my good behavior.
Hello: I am denying myself orgasm’s for longer and longer periods of time with the goal of permanent denial. Since this is my first post please allow me to say to Sarah, thank you for the blog and your insight to the Male Chastity Obsession / Addiction. I am new to your writings and your blog but I am experienced in Chastity. I believe your female perception is exceptional and I am learning from your e-mail experiences as you have described them, as well as from your research into the subject. Your thoughts have opened my eyes in many ways to women’s view both experienced and non-judgmental .
Just to give you and others in the trail above a bit of my back ground I started with a CB 6000 about 3 years ago but after about 1 1/2 years of splitting 2 plastic chastity cages, I graduated to the more 24/7 feeling of the bird locked device, which also split after about a year. More recently I have been alternating between the BON 4 and a stainless steel curved wire device.
All this has been self-directed to help me become a better husband to my wife of over 40 years. I do not believe I have been nearly good enough for her commitment, compassion and gentle spirit. I am trying to become more focused on her needs and emotions and a better husband all round with no expectation of reciprocation. Please wish me luck in breaking my selfish addition to self abuse and my goal of permanent denial.
Personality I went with permanent chastity, myself. you see even though I was born a male. Since the earliest of times I wanted to be a girl. Since I was a early age in life I dressed full time as a girl. I hated those male things I had between my legs. I ended up living with my older sister & my ex-girlfriend. They became lesbian lovers & I became their trainee. It was 2 years ago that I let them remove my testicles. And, after knowing how I feel now, I should have had that done to me long ago. I don’t need chastity, now.